Inspired by the Utah skateboard scene of the early 80's Geoff and Dave Geertsen began to design and make clothing that would hold up to their aggressive skate style. Geoff sold the first pair of pants to a shop called Holiday Skates, in Sandy Utah. The retail price: $35. The label read; FLOPPS DESIGNS. On the creative side, Dave moved on to produce his own music and fine quality belts. Geoff concentrated on shirts, jackets, pants, and shorts, all cut and sew. Learning by experience, trial and error.